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Texas~Ranger
31.01.2008, 04:15
31.01.2008 04:58:41 You have been sunk by TexasBattleCruiser2. this boat sunk me but no attack signal came on nore did it show him anywhere on the map he is sinking boats on 2 map with same boat at same time my id is 4255768 please let me know whats going on

PÏŘĄŦĔ_QÜĔĔŇ_IX
31.01.2008, 04:17
How come a ship that is not seen shoot your boat and sink you and not beable to see them to hit back? Here is the name and ID
texasbattlecruiser id#3828320

Terrorise
31.01.2008, 10:19
How come a ship that is not seen shoot your boat and sink you and not beable to see them to hit back? Here is the name and ID
texasbattlecruiser id#3828320


There are certain pirate tricks of which you can hide your ship from plain view,

Just because you do not see it does not mean it is not there. The fact that this person was able to sink you does prove that there ship was indeed on the map.

Many expierenced players will be able to tell you this.

Êv¥£_JûÑKÌê
31.01.2008, 14:13
this guy IS cheating and this is the program hes using with firefox the program hes using is firebug its a add on to firefox used to manipulate the the game it is possibale to cheat its just that you dont care to look into the matter. i swill be sending a complaint on how you handled the issue with total dissrespect to us you just assume we a liars without looking into the FACTS

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 14:23
this guy IS cheating and this is the program hes using with firefox the program hes using is firebug its a add on to firefox used to manipulate the the game it is possibale to cheat its just that you dont care to look into the matter. i swill be sending a complaint on how you handled the issue with total dissrespect to us you just assume we a liars without looking into the FACTS
Please calm down...
You are welcome to send a mail...
Address is: support@seafight.com
There is no way to cheat within our game.
Things like that can not be manipulated because they are calculated on our server...
The thing you see just is the backend which is visualising it.
There is no way somebody could manipulate the things happening on the game server.
If somebody told you he had a Cheating tool...
It is on you to believe that but we do have such assertions by users every day and within the last 2 years it never was true... ;)
You say you know about that "Cheating-Plug-in" so you can send it to me???. ;)

Texas~Ranger
31.01.2008, 14:37
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/15109/firebug-1.05-fx+fl.xpi this is the program the guy is using

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 14:42
edited this is the program the guy is using
I just forwarded that to the coders
They will have a look at it.

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 14:51
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/15109/firebug-1.05-fx+fl.xpi
That is a regular FF plug-in...
You can just debug with it and change local things...
It is technically not possible to access the Server with such a tool.
Technically not possible!

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 15:07
The name of that tool FireBug has nothing to do with Firing InGame...
That Plug-in even is older than Seafight.
It simply is the name of that tool... ;)
Please be more detailed how he did it.
You said he used a Plug-in than please let me know how he used it?

(Just to let you know some details:
It technically is not possible to shoot over 30 Fields...
That is within the viewport!
Every shot from longer range is blocked by the Game server.)

Possible technical explanation:
He could have shot at you during a LAG...
(LAG= More events are arriving than the server can handle and therefore they are landing in a "queue")
Each event will be worked of piece by piece...
Therefore he could have been shooting at you during a LAG sailed away and these events got calculated after he was long gone.
Just one technical explanation.
(Not saying that that is what happened but could be possible)

Texas~Ranger
31.01.2008, 15:10
but have you checked out what that add on can do ?
or did you just read the thread ? you got to check it out thx for the help

Êv¥£_JûÑKÌê
31.01.2008, 15:20
me personally im not that literate in computers to tell you how hes doing it but as soon as one of my mates that is he will write you in this thread if you decide to keep it open

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 15:25
me personally im not that literate in computers to tell you how hes doing it but as soon as one of my mates that is he will write you in this thread if you decide to keep it open
me personally im not that literate in computers to tell you how hes doing it but as soon as one of my mates that is he will write you in this thread if you decide to keep it open
Please send it by mail...
And yes, we had a look at that tool...
Our Coders are using that Tool for many years now...
(It is a good Debugging tool. ;))
Please let your mate send it to support@seafight.com

Thank you for your help.
It is greatly appreciated.

Texas~Ranger
31.01.2008, 15:30
i will have someone write to you at support explaining what they are doing with this program

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 15:31
i will have someone write to you in this thread explaining what they are doing with this program
Please send it by mail...
Thank you.

brandon200770
31.01.2008, 16:00
Sthomas229 id# 4289499 I was one of the ships involved last night when this stuff was ging on, there was no lag happening. I on five seperate trys moved to within 3 sqaures of where battle cruiser was shown to be, hp would start to drop with no display in upper left corner of who was shooting you.

MaFuBa
31.01.2008, 16:06
Sthomas229 id# 4289499 I was one of the ships involved last night when this stuff was ging on, there was no lag happening. I on five seperate trys moved to within 3 sqaures of where battle cruiser was shown to be, hp would start to drop with no display in upper left corner of who was shooting you.
I told you that this is just a possible explanation...
I never said that was what happened...
But what I said is:
The possibility they wrote is not possible because something like that is hardcoded blocked by our servers...

Šþªzώấz°7©
31.01.2008, 20:52
It is possible to cheat on this game just like any other game. No online game has immunity to that. If you have the right stuff and good knowledge on how to do it it is possible an apparently he has figured it out. It's quite amazing. I could do it to prove that it is possible but I'd rather not get banned for life from this game. :)

ghstdncr
31.01.2008, 23:11
seems to me theres a few people taking advantage of a bug/glitch but thats just my opinion

MaFuBa
01.02.2008, 10:51
I am closing this thread now.
It is not possible...
This game is not like normal games...
You can cheat when you have access to the data...
But in this game you do not!
All data are saved at our Servers and as long as you do not have direct access to our databases you can not manipulate them and gaining access to them from the outside without us recognizing it is not possible...
Pointing out Facts!

@ŠþäžWåz07©
You are welcome to show it to me… ;)
Just tell me when and were. ;)

Šþªzώấz°7©
01.02.2008, 11:43
HAHA okay MaFuBa, maybe one day I'll take you up on it. :) I'm not saying that you are dumb or anything just that anything is possible with the right stuff and the know how.

MaFuBa
01.02.2008, 11:45
HAHA okay MaFuBa, maybe one day I'll take you up on it. :) I'm not saying that you are dumb or anything just that anything is possible with the right stuff and the know how.Not possible under these circumstances.
We can meet now and you can prove to me what you were saying. ;)

royalelite
01.02.2008, 12:19
Hi support,

this could be done but the game must be running in the browser of fox, but im sure bigpoint has already got security agiasnt this. Plus the endless amounts of codes he would of had to go through just to take out that he was attacking you. ( not being outters but thats long), so i do find it hard to believe the bloke was cheating..

MaFuBa
01.02.2008, 13:05
And again...
Tachnically not possible...

31.01.2008 04:58:41 You have been sunk by TexasBattleCruiser2. this boat sunk me but no attack signal came on nore did it show him anywhere on the map he is sinking boats on 2 map with same boat at same time my id is 4255768 please let me know whats going on
These two things are simply technically impossible...
You are saying it is but nobody of you having a proof.
If you do please show it to me.

1 ship active at to MAPs???
Not possible because each ship got a unique ID and the Game server can not have the same ID active at two MAPs at the same time.

Shooting all over the map???
Not possible because the game server is the one thing calculating it all!
It can not be manipulated from the outside and it is simply blocking EVERY shot made from a longer range than 30 fields.

Facts!

I can now write: He can make his ship fly...
But that does not make it true...
I told you I will come onto the sea and you can show it to me...
But you never agreed to that.
When somebody is helping us we will help him... ;)
(Trust me, we do!)
But just saying something and not proving it...
Not nice…