Help Herbal medicine

[Katieska]

in real.. EU want to ban IT!! :mad::mad:

[Meesleepbeest]

Not true, all herbal medicines can be allowed if they meet the effects that they claim to cure/heal/help for. As that claim is proved they are approved and can be sold.

Its ridicoulous that water and suger pills are sold as medicine, and the EU only wants to protect their citizens from this type of non-medicines to be sold as medicines.

You can sell/buy whatever you want, but not as it claims to be a 'medicine'. Good call in my opinion :rolleyes:

But it is a bit larger than that. If the EU also want to ban own grown and use of plants/herbs/medicine they are on a wrong road.

I do not know everything about it, and as far as I know they are at it for years already and the voting was in April 2011? Well what is the result of the voting then?

Sometimes they go overboard with regulations, I sure agree on that. But they also can do good things as banning those 'medicines' that do no nothing at all.

[eolsunder1]

Sorry this is a perfect example of big government wanting to eliminate competition and cover it up on the disguise of "helping the people" pure socialism at work. If you want to use herbal medicine of any type it is up to you, its called the freedom of choice.

The government shouldn't be involved in the practice of economics or herbal medicine UNLESS such medicines are dangerous. Wether they work or not is not up to the government, the government is only suppose to be a regulatory administration, making sure that false promises aren't given, bad medicine isn't introduced, they in NO way should be legalizing or controlling the use of such herbal medicines.

Its socialism at work, 100%, big business and government trying to control what the citizens use. Simple as that. And like all things they want to control, the excuse they always give is that "they are protecting the citizens".

If a herbal medicine doesn't harm the user, and doesn't promise effects it does not give, then the government shouldn't be involved. Its typical government thinking "use our medicines, don't use theirs" lets ban theirs!

[silkiechicksrule]

i dont know why'd they ban home herbal cures. if you put lemon in herbal tea, it's perfect for cough/sore throat

[Meesleepbeest]

eolsunder1 - I totaly agree with you that the goverment should not regulate your own use of herbal stuff.

But the most herbal medicine do say they cure this or that, and thats a lie. And those will be banned, and in my opinion a good thing.

If they do not make claims like 'it cures this or that' its no problem. But if they do not say they cure something, people will not buy them and thats a manufacturer problem. So its not a goverment problem but the manufacturers are the problem in this case. The manufacturers are making claims that they can not support, but what they use to sell sugarwater and other stuff.

In the past even manufactures admitted that they make pills and other stuff that contain so little of the herbal that it is even unlikely that a pill even will contain just one molecule of the herbal that was on the package. And thus most likely just contained water and sugar.

You could think of it like this, the cook up 10.000 liters of sugar-water and throw in just one grape and cook until there is nothing left of the grape. Then they fill 10.000 bottles of 1 liter and slap a sticker on it 'Grapewater, cures sore hairpoints' and charge you 35 euro for it.
If a manufacturer now is doing the same and slap a sticker on it saying 'Sugar-water with 1/10.000 of a grape', who would buy it???

[phiphiphi]

hmm good point meesleepbeast

[silkiechicksrule]

ricolla works and that's completely herb based. some herbal meds actually work well

[Meesleepbeest]

ricolla works and that's completely herb based. some herbal meds actually work well

True, I use some herb stuff too sometimes and agree some work well, but thats because then there ARE herbs in there :)

But if a cough sirup is claiming that they can cure cancer in a week or two, then they will be banned (I hope). But if it claims to cure the bad cough and that is proved by research it can still get a license and be sold as a 'medicine' If there is no prove it just is a herbal drink that may claim nothing more then that.

But I guesse we have to wait and see what those silly people in the EU come up with. Sometimes they do good, sometimes (well... often) they do bad...

[SmallPotato]

I still can't shake it off my mind these same people banned curved cucumbers off EU markets. Don't really know how the law was written, but I imagine it must have been a hilarious reading. It had something to do with "curved cucumbers were not grown properly". Well guess what, we (my family) have never had any of our garden cucumbers straight and that's perfectly normal! This law is not in effect any more so that's good, still - spending time, tax payers' money, and effort on something like this is just ludicrous. Having that in mind, I can't be supportive of any law that would yet again intervene with the free market. If it's a fraud or is harmful in any way and can be proven, there's laws for that and criminal prosecution if needs be. If it's bogus claims, but harmless otherwise, the consumer will choose if it belongs on store shelves or not. If it's on pharmacy shelves, it's already regulated too much as it is, at least in EU. Also, we shouldn't neglect the placebo effect some products might have/achieve. It's used in medicine throughout the world for various purposes, in most cases for proven benefits to patients without any harmful side-effects whatsoever, and thinking such practice should be banned is, simply, beyond belief. I'm sorry, but knowing what laws these people have passed before, I'm out of trust they're capable of writing anything worth reading, let alone being passed as laws effecting any and all of the member states, including mine. My 5 cents, have fun!