Do you hate Dks

[malikc11]

You just made one of are coolest move crappy you made blood of rush from 25% to 10%, but not only did you made our percentage lower you made our range smaller too. I mean come on that was the best way to kill noobs in PVP that just run. Just keep the talent tree the way it was it was awesome.

P.S. If you want to fix something fix the was spell weavers can hit over 4k damage with 1 fireball with reds.

[grafas36]

I totally agree. First mighty wild swing minus one meter now this.

[-Blueberry-]

You just made one of are coolest move crappy you made blood of rush from 25% to 10%, but not only did you made our percentage lower you made our range smaller too. I mean come on that was the best way to kill noobs in PVP that just run. Just keep the talent tree the way it was it was awesome.

P.S. If you want to fix something fix the was spell weavers can hit over 4k damage with 1 fireball with reds.


And I've been hit for 7.1k in 1 shot by a DK using reds. Your point is?

As far as I am concerned, DK's are unkillable.
SW's die 30 times in game, and DK's just don't die.

I assume you are a lower lvl DK. They did not used to be so powerful, I'm a bit out of touch on lower lvl stuff now. Endgame DK's are gods.

[malikc11]

For one blueberry I'm a lvl 40 full leg and if you where hit with 7.1 with reds then you where head butted. The reason we don't die in because we are warriors so we have to have high stats so we can deal with little rangers and spell weavers running and shooting. So that meter and health loss is a lot for us. But, worst of all now i cant be the only dk doing frosty in my group without using buffs or reds.

P.S i cant get much buff or reds because i don't BUY!!!

[WhiteUnicorn]

Please can we at least try and keep this "pleasant" and on topic :)

What everyone should remember and what I always tell myself when I log onto my Balor account is everyone's playing style is different and what everyone has on there account is different. One day I can be faced with a Level 40 DK that I can totally annihilate and the next day they can rip me to shreds.

When your faced with only the level and what it looks like, you have no idea how the person plays, what skills they have set, what gems they have used, what items they have, how much they have upgraded etc etc....

Every person is different and what they have put into the game is different and it is always best to remember that Number 1 .

Apart from that, Have fun :D

[thisdude157]

2 things. 1 DK.s we love you and need you our guild on agathon server,
2. just stop whining. nobody's over powered, nobody gonna steal your lunch money.
GAME. It's a game! DK's are our bread and butter, what do they need? strong rangers and spell weavrs at thier back!. know that, get used to that, and enjoy this game:)
cheers

[Knightofyourlife]

You just made one of are coolest move crappy you made blood of rush from 25% to 10%, but not only did you made our percentage lower you made our range smaller too. I mean come on that was the best way to kill noobs in PVP that just run. Just keep the talent tree the way it was it was awesome.

P.S. If you want to fix something fix the was spell weavers can hit over 4k damage with 1 fireball with reds.

unbelievable!!!
R051 utterly destroyed the SW, Spell weavers are now almost unplayable, They where deliberately broken because of people crying to the Devs if they can not beat SW's instantly with one graze 100% of the time, If the SW was an even match and had the chance to win 50% of the time, you would lose each and every time. Why is this? because the SW players have to handle a broken toon and the Dk's are playing with a powerfull toon, as soon as the Spell weavers class is fixed and there is once again balance, The SW players will make far more from it and create an advantage from nothing more than skill alone, and then the other players will cry again untill they manege to get my class broken yet again. Please please please DEV's fix SW and then leave it alone because we are sick of yo yoing from fixed to broken, fixed to broken.
I am going to stop playing this game soon if you don't give the SW the same lvl of power of the DK's.
P.s DK's are not at all two powerfull, just give SW the same lvl of power as the DK's.
SW is the only toon out of the 3 that needs any work.

[thisdude157]

P.s DK's are not at all two powerfull, just give SW the same lvl of power as the DK's.
SW is the only toon out of the 3 that needs any work.

Wrong.
I have not even attempted to play a SW yet, No argument whether they are broken or not, BUT to say that the other classes don't have problems is wrong.
Scatter shot doesn't fix aim on stairs, or any incline and it is pretty much a useless skill til this is fixed. Dropping traps does not always work, sometimes it acts like it dropped, even making you wait the cool down period, but no trap was actually dropped.
Jumping is the same, sometimes you jump out of harms way, some times you don't, and guess what, you still have to wait the cool down period whether you actually jumped or not.
SW is not the only class that needs attention.

[Knightofyourlife]

P.s DK's are not at all two powerfull, just give SW the same lvl of power as the DK's.
SW is the only toon out of the 3 that needs any work.

Wrong.
I have not even attempted to play a SW yet, No argument whether they are broken or not, BUT to say that the other classes don't have problems is wrong.
Scatter shot doesn't fix aim on stairs, or any incline and it is pretty much a useless skill til this is fixed. Dropping traps does not always work, sometimes it acts like it dropped, even making you wait the cool down period, but no trap was actually dropped.
Jumping is the same, sometimes you jump out of harms way, some times you don't, and guess what, you still have to wait the cool down period whether you actually jumped or not.
SW is not the only class that needs attention.

I would love the SW to have the insignificant little problems you have mentioned.
I have been playing the parallel dungeon in party's of DK's and Rangers.
Now to say that I have not seen them die would be a lie because this dungeon set is bluming Hard, But the DK's and the Rangers kick backside good and proper, Just as they should do. The SW on the other hand is a joke they can not even get through the front door with out a ranger or a DK to carry them. I have done the parallel dungeon with a party of all SW (I say done, but thats not true, Five SW's could not get past the first corner) I have also finneshed the dungeon with lots of partys each time I was the only SW in the party, I have been carried buy a ranger's and buy DK's. when ever I am carrying another player it is always another SW.

But because I do have to agree that the ranger may need a little bit of tweaking I will amend my statement!

SW is the only toon out of the 3 that needs any Real work.

[thisdude157]

Dude,
I am going to say one more time. I never even attempted to play a SW.
What I will re interate is that you are not alone in this beta game. Nobody is trying to screw you over because you created a spellweaver. We all have glitches problems, skill that don't work when they are supposed to. It's a beta game. The cards are not stacked against you because you chose spellweaver. Get over it

BTW, I'm sorry for being guilty of actually reading your post twice. Otherwise would have been no need to edit.
Insignificant in whos eyes? I'm talking about you mention of ranger classes problems. They might be insignificant to you as a SW, but to us, it sometimes ends up being our lives, and ultimately can end up our party's lives

[Knightofyourlife]

Dude,
I am going to say one more time. I never even attempted to play a SW.
What I will re interate is that you are not alone in this beta game. Nobody is trying to screw you over because you created a spellweaver. We all have glitches problems, skill that don't work when they are supposed to. It's a beta game. The cards are not stacked against you because you chose spellweaver. Get over it

BTW, I'm sorry for being guilty of actually reading your post twice. Otherwise would have been no need to edit.
Insignificant in whos eyes? I'm talking about you mention of ranger classes problems. They might be insignificant to you as a SW, but to us, it sometimes ends up being our lives, and ultimately can end up our party's lives

You say you have never played a SW, Start playing one, it will not take you long to understand that Ranger is fine.

compared to SW the rangers have NO problems at all, Compared to DK's you could say you had a few things that could be better but at least ranger is playable but for you to say It sometimes ends up being your lives when most SW can not even play any more is a bit much,
To then say the cards are not stacked against me because I am playing a spellweaver and to get over it is outrageous. the cards are not stacked against me when I play my ranger.
Because of the PVP talents there is no point of playing a SW. unless your only intention is to die and feed the other 2 characters PVP talents.
Best thing you can do if you prefer to play with SW is to refuse to feed to other two classes with honor points by Boycotting PVP totally.
The best way to have an even playing filed is to remove your broken self until you are fit enough to fight.

[thisdude157]

You Sir,
Completely refuse to see that there are problems with with every single class in this game. Your spellweaver problem, I am saying needs to be addressed. BUT it is no more important than MY ranger problem OR someone who plays as a DRAGON KNIGHTS problem.
BETA

Oh yeah Sorry edit one more time to make clear. I have never played a spellweaver. BUT it really doesn't matter because I'm not arguing against spellweavers.

[Knightofyourlife]

You Sir,
Completely refuse to see that there are problems with with every single class in this game. Your spellweaver problem, I am saying needs to be addressed. BUT it is no more important than MY ranger problem OR someone who plays as a DRAGON KNIGHTS problem.
BETA

Oh yeah Sorry edit one more time to make clear. I have never played a spellweaver. BUT it really doesn't matter because I'm not arguing against spellweavers.

You Sir,
Are Completely incapable of seeing that there are NO problems with Ranger and NO problems with Dragon Knights in comparison with Spellweavers buy your own admission! because you have never played a spellweaver.

[thisdude157]

Give it a break,
You don't have a clue what I'm saying, and I really believe you don't have a clue what you are saying. Take a break

[Knightofyourlife]

Give it a break,
You don't have a clue what I'm saying, and I really believe you don't have a clue what you are saying. Take a break

Give it a Break
You don't have a clue what I'm saying, and I really believe you don't have a clue what you are saying. Take a break buy playing a SW and you will see that rangers and Dk's have no problems AT ALL when in comparison to the SW.

I at the moment am going back to my Ranger until SW is fixed.

[thisdude157]

I at the moment am going back to my Ranger until SW is fixed.

Do that and give the board a break.
BTW enjoy your broken version of jump,and trap. Hope you see what I'm trying to explain to you.
Cheers

Oh yeah Sorry edit one more time to make clear. I have never played a spellweaver. BUT it really doesn't matter because I'm not arguing against spellweavers.

no interest in being a spellweaver. I like ranger and NOT for reasons you like to express.

[Dward]

This thread has become like a ping-pong match, each person trying to out-slam the other with no new point being made and no new information being shared.

Are we ready to close it?

[thisdude157]

Yes, Dward this thread should be closed,
OR the guy who is trying to argue his point of spellweavers on a board about dragonknights should be banned.

[Knightofyourlife]

I at the moment am going back to my Ranger until SW is fixed.

Do that and give the board a break.
BTW enjoy your broken version of jump,and trap. Hope you see what I'm trying to explain to you.
Cheers

Oh yeah Sorry edit one more time to make clear. I have never played a spellweaver. BUT it really doesn't matter because I'm not arguing against spellweavers.

no interest in being a spellweaver. I like ranger and NOT for reasons you like to express.

I will not be giving this board a break any more to play ranger unless you are willing to at least try and understand by giving this board a break your self and trying to play with the almost unplayable SW.
I will and do enjoy playing a ranger because I do play all three Toons (to be frank I dont play a DK that much)
Jump and trap are not uber godly skills but at least they work. as far as SW skills are
concerned they are all broken in some way or another.
The least broken skill for an SW is teleport and that works (or not) in the same buggy way as Jump, At least trap can trap (it is not intended to kill everything in seconds)
But if you mix it with essence and some polished ruby's in your bow it can kill or at least do some good damage, if this is followed by some arrows rangers can kick backside.
Rangers also have the super cool wolves. the wolves stop monsters from getting to you.
SW has a very hard time doing any thing like this and they have less life than you.
Now I will say that if you compare Ranger with DK, then a bit of tweaking and bug fixing is necessary to make the two characters equal.
The major problem for the ranger is bugs.
The major problem for the SW is they are totally broken on every level.

[thisdude157]

Look I read your post. I completely disagree. Dward is right this thread should be closed. AND that isn't fair because neither one of us started it. Think outside your little mind for a second and realize that there is alot going on.
Your spellweaver is a horrible character because you can't play the game. When you get your ranger out and start playing you will be crying that rangers are under powered and un balanced. GEEZ. Stop We killed someone else's post. I am truly sorry about that OP. I apologize to Dward as well. Please accept my apologies.

[Knightofyourlife]

Look I read your post. I completely disagree. Dward is right this thread should be closed. AND that isn't fair because neither one of us started it. Think outside your little mind for a second and realize that there is alot going on.
Your spellweaver is a horrible character because you can't play the game. When you get your ranger out and start playing you will be crying that rangers are under powered and un balanced. GEEZ. Stop We killed someone else's post. I am truly sorry about that OP. I apologize to Dward as well. Please accept my apologies.

The person that started this post asked for SW to be broken even more that it is already.
I was answering him because he was not being fair,neither are you being fair.
If Dward wishes to close this thread that is his right as a mod If Dward is going to tell me off because I have been out of order in some way then he will, because he has a mandate to follow. you asked him to ban me from the posts (not fair), you are now saying I have a little mind (not fair) and that my character is horrible because I can not play (again not fair) I have not been rude to you. and after that you apologize to cover your own back in the same post as personal attacks.

Thank you thisdude157

[thisdude157]

Knightofyourlife,
Good luck to you,
Dward I promise I'm not posting here anymore, Please don't close someone else's thread over this.
Knight, Play your ranger, play a knight, play a spellweaver. Whatever. The facts are the same. You will see that every class has problems.hence the point I tried to make to you in the first place. Good luck

[-Blueberry-]

thisdude,
I see where Knight is coming from.

DW's and Rangers, may have a couple of skills that need a small fix.
SW's have an entire game mechanism that needs fixing.
The issues are not on the same scale.

You may not be able to shoot up stairs on a ranger.
SW's have glitches also with our spells, these are not even mentioned.
For example, in an attempt to fix the teleport bugs in arena where we could not move after death if we died teleporting, they have built in a delay up front in the teleport spell, which causes it to not work half the time you want it to. Teleport spell is critical in life and death situations for SW's, yet the scale of our issues are so huge, this does not get mentioned. My point is, as Knight says, SW's have the same "small" issues other classes have.

However, as a balancing issue, SW's have the bigger issue.
SW's die far too much in comparison to DW's and Ranger, due to having far too little HP and armour. Though they did improve the HP issue, but only by destroying our mana and ability to do any damage at all. So whilst SW's die far too easily in comparison, we do not have the bonus we should get for having this penalty. Say we die twice as easily as a Ranger, and three times easier than a DW, we should do say twice as much damage as a Ranger, and three times as much damage as a DW to compensate.
However, this is not the case.

In response to the OP, BP love DW's.
The self confessed best player in the game is a DW.
(and I agree he is - he is untouchable. He has over 4 million honour, higher than any server, he has completed all the paralell worlds etc. I would love to speak German, so I could see his posts on the German forums).

[Duskish]

P.s DK's are not at all two powerfull, just give SW the same lvl of power as the DK's.
SW is the only toon out of the 3 that needs any work.

Wrong.
I have not even attempted to play a SW yet, No argument whether they are broken or not, BUT to say that the other classes don't have problems is wrong.
Scatter shot doesn't fix aim on stairs, or any incline and it is pretty much a useless skill til this is fixed. Dropping traps does not always work, sometimes it acts like it dropped, even making you wait the cool down period, but no trap was actually dropped.
Jumping is the same, sometimes you jump out of harms way, some times you don't, and guess what, you still have to wait the cool down period whether you actually jumped or not.
SW is not the only class that needs attention.

I've had that trouble with jumping before, but as a DK with the rage jump and stun charge. no jump, no stun, but I have to wait for the cooldown timer while the mob of monsters or other players kills me while i'm trapped.
very irritating.

[thisdude]

Now I'm breaking my promise to Dward that I wouldn't post on this thread again.

Blueberry, Duskish.

I got abit frustrated of the hard headedness. I was merely pointing out that SW is not the only class with problems.
I tru;y did not mean to jack this thread with an argument by correcting a statement I truly do not agree with.
I agreed that spellweaver has problems. What I did not agree with and still do not is that only spellweaver has problems.

[calvinkcc1]

I really do hate DKs, they r now the POWER HOUSE. First off, Dk use to be the slow class and minimum dmge, but yet powerful defense. Now after all this crazy updates for the DKs, they have been a dominant class not only with more teleport and stun skills but MASSIVE dmge and DEFENSE. Is just crazy in arena how they can survive hits and be able to move quick with massive hits; if they use blue that is it arena is their to chill.

[thisdude]

Calvin
I might just have to make a DK now.
I love a good hack and slash character, and if they are as powerful as you say then, well, maybe I should give it a go.
Thanks

[calvinkcc1]

Lol np, i've been alrdy working on my DK(14 atm). Yes SW is the biggest hitter and DK can hit, stun, and hit massive dmge.... leaving rangers the balance class and by balance i mean the hits, stun, tele, and others are just about fine to prolly get a fight with this 2 class.

[thisdude]

Glad I got an "lol' out you mate:)
Sorry we jacked your thread.
I can't do the DK.I've got one but I really got frustrated having to chase everything down.

OOPs it was Malik"s thread my apolgies:)

[heatrr]

Glad I got an "lol' out you mate:)
I can't do the DK.I've got one but I really got frustrated having to chase everything down.


That's why you use Paralyzing Onslaught... :rolleyes:

[thisdude]

Heatr, can you show me how to be an effective DK?
I really wanna try one for real. I don't know what to do with one after playing ranger every single time lol? please?