Raptor Flight manual 2.0 A guide to flying Command Strikes.

[Ashicus79]

Originally Posted by Paradox3713

Funny I don't seem to remember seeing any Raptors flying into combat and dogfighting along Vipers.

BUT you do see people like myself get up close and personal in the game. Though in some part AGREE with you about increasing the range, I think what your suggesting is simply overkill. There can be too much of a good thing and thus it's important to remember the BALANCE that we all want in this game

Hey anyone else in here ever see that in the show? Gssholly, Ashicus79, Goose4291, any of you guys see Raptors dogfighting Raiders in the show? No? Yeah I didn't think so either. I guess knowledge, understanding, common sense, and a proper use of military assess isn't O'Brien's strong suit regardless of how long he has been on the forums.

Urm, actually YES I do remember them being a key part in the rescue plan to save everyone from new caprica AND in the finally they are used as nuke delivery systems and provide combat support. Also if you see the battle where Athena hacks the cylons, making them all shut down, you'll see that there is RAPTORS shooting things too

But you are right, it does need tweeking a bit.

[Paradox3713]

Originally Posted by Ashicus79

BUT you do see people like myself get up close and personal in the game. Though in some part AGREE with you about increasing the range, I think what your suggesting is simply overkill. There can be too much of a good thing and thus it's important to remember the BALANCE that we all want in this game

But see I already went into the balance side of it. That the command ship would not conduct direct combat actions such as dogfighting other ships. Even when the Heavy Raider had engaged Capt Adama. He didn't even dare try to dogfight him. He was smart enough to know that he had the durability to just spin around and try firing to get him off his six. After that he went back to his mission of deploying his Centurions into Galactica's Landing Pod.

The Raptors would do nothing more than support a Strike Squad or Fast Attack Group. Not try to go toe to toe with Raiders. That's just insane.

Urm, actually YES I do remember them being a key part in the rescue plan to save everyone from new caprica AND in the finally they are used as nuke delivery systems and provide combat support. Also if you see the battle where Athena hacks the cylons, making them all shut down, you'll see that there is RAPTORS shooting things too

But you are right, it does need tweeking a bit.

Okay the quote was

"...any of you guys see Raptors dogfighting Raiders in the show?

Yes they were used in rescue missions and in support of fleet or squad combat actions. But they do not dogfight. This in itself shows that their use in the game is wrong. Hey I currently use them for dogfighting as well. But that is because they are not currently built to do their real job. You give me the specs for the ship and gear I need to really have the Raptor do her job and I will never mount another gun on her again.

Now if you create an Assault role Raptor with rocket or missile pods then you can make the pilot use the old equipment because he's going to need it to protect himself anyway. Maybe that's the key right there. Standard Raptor is converted to an Assault role and as such has defensive gear on board to help protect himself. But the FRs are converted to true Standoff and Support Raptors (SSRs and as such have no weapons but all their gear is specialized with extended range capabilities (Like a smaller target designator) equipment to support Fleets, Fast Attack Groups, and Strike Squads.

So just how would a ship like that be considered overkill? Wouldn't it be 'canon' as they say?

[gssholly]

Actually if you watch the two part, ending of season 4 and beginning of the last season where starbuck returns you do actually see raptors mixing it up with raiders in that Nebula.

But it's not what raptors are designed to do.

If you watch the mini series at the beginning that mk7 leader tells boomer to back off that raptors are not meant to be a dog fighter.

Yes they have internal bomb bays but that's more for what some have said:

Close Air support for ground troops, nuke carriers, missile bombardment, decoy launchers, AWACS. Long range scout, and in the show the only jump capable fighter.

but the game had to make sacrifices for the game play. Just the way it went.

[SoulFire_Furfan]

i have no place in this discussion at all . long live liners :P

[Paradox3713]

Originally Posted by gssholly

Actually if you watch the two part, ending of season 4 and beginning of the last season where starbuck returns you do actually see raptors mixing it up with raiders in that Nebula.

But it's not what raptors are designed to do.

I do so luv having more and more reasons to go back and catch those great episodes I haven't seen in a while.

If you watch the mini series at the beginning that mk7 leader tells boomer to back off that raptors are not meant to be a dog fighter.

Exactly. This is another reason why BGO feels like it's still in Beta. Cause it feels like they have not finished setting up the ships and gear/equipment yet to fit their role. After that's done the missions and campaign would follow. Right now we appear to have nothing.

Yes they have internal bomb bays but that's more for what some have said:

Yeah I don't think they do honestly. It seems to me that they use weapons hardpoint/pylons. Now the Heavy Raider is something completely different. I have no doubt those are internal storage.

Close Air support for ground troops, nuke carriers, missile bombardment, decoy launchers, AWACS. Long range scout, and in the show the only jump capable fighter.

but the game had to make sacrifices for the game play. Just the way it went.

Yeah, too bad they didn't work harder first before they decided on the sacrifices. Part of me thinks that for some companies they put out there best work their first time out to make a name for themselves, and then after that performance drops. (i.e. Crysis vs Crysis 2) With BP from what I've read they have always been known for lack of attention to detail, or the buy short sell long concept. And that's why they go by name recognition alone. This game still has potential. It would just take them spending the money on personnel to make it so.

[Ashicus79]

As always THANK YOU all for great feedback. Keep it coming, and please keep on track about what this thread is about. This is a learning thread for those who love the brick/tin can and want to get some great tips...

Keep the good work coming!

[Coldtouch]

So I have a quick question, When you switching to the reds so we can fly together?... just kidding, just wanted to say thanks for writing the awesome guide!

[Ashicus79]

Originally Posted by Coldtouch

So I have a quick question, When you switching to the reds so we can fly together?... just kidding, just wanted to say thanks for writing the awesome guide!

Lol, I don't think my wing would be happy if I left... but thanks for the compliment

[OblivionsKey]

Well I never thought I would fly a strike... But after reading this top notch guide and whatever else I can find, I have decided to make the Adv FR Raptor and Adv Raptor my main ship. I started the game as a viper, but after awhile was very discontent so I tried a Raptor and was much happier. But when I hit lvl 10 I went Maul, and just wasnt happy even when advanced. Today I got back in my old Raptor, had a blast, I plan to advance it and get the FR too. With one primary goal: murder liches an fenrirs.

[Ashicus79]

Originally Posted by OblivionsKey

Well I never thought I would fly a strike... But after reading this top notch guide and whatever else I can find, I have decided to make the Adv FR Raptor and Adv Raptor my main ship. I started the game as a viper, but after awhile was very discontent so I tried a Raptor and was much happier. But when I hit lvl 10 I went Maul, and just wasnt happy even when advanced. Today I got back in my old Raptor, had a blast, I plan to advance it and get the FR too. With one primary goal: murder liches an fenrirs.

Welcome to the Raptor Wranglers! Glad to have you aboard