being a low level on this server

[langoustien2]

Quiet frankly is embaressing to be begging cylons to let you do your assingments, it defeats the point of a low level joining if they cannot leave low level zones or follow stupid system patrols which send you to cylon heavy areas.

this post may be pointless but i felt the need to express this after i was give an apoligey of a cylon for killing me

many of my freinds have left this server and i am currently out of a wing and it is gettin very hard to do anything. if anyone can lend me a hand id be very greatful

[Cadoogan]

It doesn't get any easier, but hey at least you got an apology....i am owed thousands :rolleyes: lol

Finding a wing here is nearly as difficult as leveling up, i have posted several times on these forums looking for wing etc, also in chat, but with no luck. Colonial wings here do seem a little.....incestuous.

But, dont worry, its more than possible to progress in this game flying solo, for example i am now lvl 58 with a lot of lvl 10 skills, and lvl 11 guns on my adv viper mk7. Just be patient, because like the great zen philosopher Mr. T once said :

"You're going to face adversity, the main thing is don't quit. For many people it's easy to quit, but don't. That's what separates the winners from the losers, what separates the all-stars from the also-rans." :cool:

[langoustien2]

yeh im a level 24 now its abit boring going solo all the time makes it hard to find the much needed water mines
i will keep playing as it helps kill the time but i would defo like a wing
although everytime i press the wing roster button my game freezes ¬¬

[-Mallek-]

Since I speak as Cylon, my views may be seen as biased, but things aren't that easy for our lower levels either, since they too get picked off by higer levels, if detected, and if they venture to deep into colonial side, to do their dailies.

Dailies were not easy for me either, and still sometimes aren't, especially when I get recon or patrol in a high risk colonial system. What I usually do is be as stealhy as possible ( so, suicidal charging at liners and OP are a no no at that moment :) ) ,naturally, fly in strike, and not escort or liner, stick to the areas where there are some cylons already ( yeah, npcs included ), so that I have at least some chance to fight back, or perhaps jump out and back in the system to complete my recon/patrol ( which of course, isn't so easy if the spawn is camped ), and that way I get my dailies done usually.

Another way is to try completing your dailies at times when there aren't so many cylons around, if possible, or when most are on one of the op raids ( which means, there is usually less free cylons flying around in other systems and hunting unlucky colonials ).

Perhaps this may be more difficult for your side, of course, when being outnumbered at times, but I've seen rather good organization in colonial op raids and hunting squads, so things are perhaps improving...or I might be wrong, hmm.
And if you are leaving your wings because you feel you don't have enough support form other wing members, perhaps you should all form one wing for that same reason, providing there is enough of you to offer support at any time. Leaving for another server might seem good, but things might not be so good on other servers either, because balance is usually hard to achieve, since it tends to shift every now and then.

Oh, and perhaps I might sound cynical, but looking for water mines to sit on is not such a good idea, especially if you're colonial here, and don't have enough support with you to hold the mine, not only because of the cylons or other colonial mine thieves, but because it requires a lot of time, while you can sometimes find much more blue rocks to shoot at, while looking for a free, fat water mine. Or, I'm just a lucky miner, heh.

Anyways, just offering my pov. :)

[langoustien2]

i dont hunt for water mines. although id like one as im trying to get far without paying money although i may just buy teh 7 quid one as i want to support the game. if they imporve it that is.

thanks for your im put a lot in persepective :)

[Headstash]

i dont hunt for water mines. although id like one as im trying to get far without paying money although i may just buy teh 7 quid one as i want to support the game. if they imporve it that is.

thanks for your im put a lot in persepective :)

you'll give them money, but they don't really improve the game. they just find ways to make your equipemnt/ship obsolete so you have to buy more. currently they are frakking with the ammo to make you buy more cubits to actually be competitive. not sure how the situation on your server is tho, as i play on scorpia. right now i can't even do dailies much at all. just jumped into spectris as a cylon and it's camped at the spawn point by a carrier with strikes and a couple line ships. we have just too many colonials on this server.

[Agelastus]

you'll give them money, but they don't really improve the game. they just find ways to make your equipemnt/ship obsolete so you have to buy more. currently they are frakking with the ammo to make you buy more cubits to actually be competitive. not sure how the situation on your server is tho, as i play on scorpia. right now i can't even do dailies much at all. just jumped into spectris as a cylon and it's camped at the spawn point by a carrier with strikes and a couple line ships. we have just too many colonials on this server.

Having looked at the new Ammo types currently available for a Strike on Kobol (I'm too low level there to see escort or line ammo) I have to say that it's going to be even more impossible to compete with the wallet warriors if they "go live" with this change.

Joy...

[ian1246]

i dont hunt for water mines. although id like one as im trying to get far without paying money although i may just buy teh 7 quid one as i want to support the game. if they imporve it that is.

thanks for your im put a lot in persepective :)

Mate I don't play on Sagitarron and just happened to randomly notice this thread.

Essentially, a tip here: Don't worry about water-mines. If you level your scanner up to level 10 and get your power-generation skill up to level 10 (under electronic warfare skills I think, can't remember off the top of my head).... you ll find you can scan lots and lots and lots of rocks before your power runs out - making asteroid scanning a LOT easier.

It then works out a damn-side quicker & profitable to go search for water in asteroid belts (particularly higher level-threat area's, which as a strike you should be mainly invincible in)... than sit over a water mine.

Essentially: As a level 53 or 54 player on Canceron, I view water-mines as a opportunity to complete my disrupt enemy-operations assignment - either via killing the lone-lines which often sit over them deep within "safe" enemy territory, or via joining the regular skirmishes & engagements which happen between 2 groups fighting over the same water-mine....

.... as oppossed to viewing them as a actual source of water.

I m a line player mainly btw (Though I do have a decentish advanced Raider equipped with RCS ducts and ruiners for fun attacks on solo-lines, particuarly if I have a spare raider-nuke lieing around lol).

Also: Go onto youtube and watch a video telling you the blind-spots of medium & heavy platforms - even in a low level strike you should be able to kill them if you know where the blind-spots are, and generate cubits that way as well.

Just a few tips. Best of luck buddy :)

[vjacob012]

here is the best advice for this..ever
get familiar with the button "x"

what does pressing X do? it targets the nearest enemy. if u have your camera mode on the "target enemy mode" and if u press x every 30 seconds or so as it should be a habit, you wont get ganked as much, i promise you :^)

[Subway81]

here is the best advice for this..ever
get familiar with the button "x"

what does pressing X do? it targets the nearest enemy. if u have your camera mode on the "target enemy mode" and if u press x every 30 seconds or so as it should be a habit, you wont get ganked as much, i promise you :^)

Sooo true, though i changed the key to a better one for me :)

[-GuardianX-]

I can tell you I fly alone most of the time and i perfer it that way. You just have to be smart on how you fly. If you want recon, patrol, or just to mine water then you need to be in a strike. Any strike will do but my best mining ship is the Raptor with dradis extenders. You can see 5k out and mine without anyone sneaking up on you. Try to do missions during server down times. Last but not least, set up a build thats excellent for solo such as my build is turbos with a mix of guns and missles. If you see anyone coming just run and shoot missles. Ppl will hate it but at the end, theres a good chance you will be alive.

[Stevetwothreeeight]

This is the same for both sides I play Cylon and between being level 15 and 25 have walked away several times, even close to home small groups of Vipers shoot from behind . This is not real and I am not fighting for my life so I want a good fight not a slaughter. I don't attack anything with less then 20% my hp or anyone more than 10 level below me (31) ( apart from a couple of vipers who plagued me when I was weaker ). I find it difficult to do my dailies as finding 1 on 1 combat is really difficult and I lose more than I win but I do enjoy a good fair battle and although rare keeps me coming back .

[solllooo_boss1]

This is the same for both sides I play Cylon and between being level 15 and 25 have walked away several times, even close to home small groups of Vipers shoot from behind . This is not real and I am not fighting for my life so I want a good fight not a slaughter. I don't attack anything with less then 20% my hp or anyone more than 10 level below me (31) ( apart from a couple of vipers who plagued me when I was weaker ). I find it difficult to do my dailies as finding 1 on 1 combat is really difficult and I lose more than I win but I do enjoy a good fair battle and although rare keeps me coming back .

Maybe if you join a strike wing could solve a lots of problems and give you more good battles. This game is not designed for lone players, not for win alone in any case. It's interesting how many ppl in game choose to play alone and after complain about being ganked. My recomandation goes for SWARM because they have many players and no requirements regarding voice chat (TS, Ventrilo...) like other wings.
Keep in mind also this is a war game and there is no such thing as ''fair''.

[restless_native]

Thanks for the recommendation Harv. It's much appreciated.

You would be welcome to join us Steve if you'd like a little help. We do help lower levels in fact most of our high levels joined us as noobs. To correct something Harv said whilst TS isn't compulsory we do prefer that everyone has it installed. Even if you don't want to talk it's useful to listen in for commands from the squad leader whenever we fly together.

If you're interested you'll find our thread in the wing section with more info in the opening post.

http://en.board.bigpoint.com/bsgo/showthread.php?t=382882

[Stevetwothreeeight]

Keep in mind also this is a war game and there is no such thing as ''fair''.

True but it is a game so I will still try for fair fights many years ago I took part in martial arts quite seriously and my sensei always said " better to lose a good fight than win a bad one " still sticks always will but I accept what your saying.

Sutekh
Thank you for the invite it is greatly appreciated and I will certainly look into it. I have convinced my son to join and hopefully when he finishes his degree he will have time to play more and we can back each other up .

[solllooo_boss1]

I don't know what you understand by martial arts but i think Confucius know all about.
“If an enemy has alliances, the problem is grave and the enemy's position strong; if he has no alliances, the problem is minor and the enemy's position weak."
Congrats for joining SWARM and i hope to fight together in the next battle.

[StarRaptor7]

“If an enemy has alliances, the problem is grave and the enemy's position strong; if he has no alliances, the problem is minor and the enemy's position weak."

heheheh that doesnt explain how i empty whole maps everyday in just my strike

[-Mallek-]

heheheh that doesnt explain how i empty whole maps everyday in just my strike

Um...oh, if it is the challenge you seek, perhaps you should stop hunting low levels in newbie systems, then? ;) Just a suggestion. :)

[Subway81]

Before this turns into a flame thread, i agree with Star. I have days i can clear "everything" in any system alone. There is no need for flying in groups, though:

1. You have to be good skilled (lvl doesnt mean a thing, but usually higher lvls are better skilled)
2. Good situational awareness
3. This was before introduction on all these new ammo's. Not sure what that will bring.
4. Don't try this at rush hour :)

In any case i wouldn't recommend it. Its more fun, easier and gives a better battle experience when you fly strikes (and other ships as well) in a group. Better protection as well, though you must be able to trust the others. I have been in squads where still everybody is only caring about his (her) own and nothing else.

As for "better to lose a good fight than win a bad one", i would reply : "Better win all fights" Fighting fair is an illusion, especially in this game. When the 3rd faction comes into play as well (lag) it becomes a roll of the dice anyways.

I agree this game is not designed for lone players, but it is do-able. I sometimes just don't want any interaction with anybody, i decide to rampage on my own. Somedays it works, some days it doesnt.

What i did in my early lvls:

Make friends by hunting NPC's, don't worry about the big battles or DEO's too much. Gear up for speed and get skills by battling NPC's, drones and platforms. Find some common style players and team up. Learn the tricks. My first DEO really came only after i was lvl 18 - 19.

And if i may say so, i turned out to be allright ;)

(Oh, last tip i almost forgot: Turn on the music. The music will change when threat appears. After a while it is a bit annoying, but it helped me earlier to be aware of danger coming)

[StarRaptor7]

Um...oh, if it is the challenge you seek, perhaps you should stop hunting low levels in newbie systems, then? ;) Just a suggestion. :)

what are newbie systems actually? as i think even lvl 2-3 players go in high lvl systems to do their dailies, as u can easily solo strike npcs even if they are high lvl, in a newbie ship... i made a new account in some other server and i didnt spend any time in the protected maps... besides arent newbie maps protected? like, it doesnt let enemies jump in? so how do i hunt there :P not that i wish to :S

if u mean maps like imsida anachron etc, i think the last time i went there was like 2 months ago, and that was only cuz i was hunting in a group and had to follow... i dont fancy those maps much, they are pretty empty except for low lvl players which dont give me any fun... i play for fun, not for kills, and lower than lvl 12 doesnt giv any kills i think

i was talking about maps from nilfhel and calibaan to bonamist and exrun.... my personal favourite is aretis... love those maps, plenty to kill there

those players who hunt in those "newbie systems" as u call it are just cowards, or probably they are low levels themselves and its the only way for them to get their deos done

;)

[restless_native]

I agree that the most fun part of flying a strike is wandering around alone causing trouble. I tend to spend most of my time doing that.

However, I do also really enjoy the social interaction that comes from being in a wing with players with a similar outlook. Even if you're not flying together you have someone to chat to and bounce ideas off. It is also fun to fly together sometimes if you feel like it.

I think what I'm saying really is that I like having options.

[StarRaptor7]

I agree that the most fun part of flying a strike is wandering around alone causing trouble. I tend to spend most of my time doing that.

However, I do also really enjoy the social interaction that comes from being in a wing with players with a similar outlook. Even if you're not flying together you have someone to chat to and bounce ideas off. It is also fun to fly together sometimes if you feel like it.

I think what I'm saying really is that I like having options.

true, i often fly with AX and CDS when they need help and when i need fun.... although i am someone who fights best alone than when in a group (i tend to get confused and mess up group fights) i still enjoy flying with others that i trust from time to time

although flying with people i dont know isnt my thing at all xD

[Sith4793]

My two cents worth: You go alone , you get owned.

[StarRaptor7]

My two cents worth: You go alone , you get owned.

not completely true, as u'll survive longer on ur own than when u go with the wrong players

but yeah its good to look for a group, it helps at the start